Comments on: The great open source CMS debate http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:22:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: chi http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24991 chi Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:34:54 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24991 joomla's good, easi2 insall, easy to use, huge online community prolly the biggest for open source cms - so lotsa help, smart and useful addons, modules etc. duznt look to bad also, drupal looks a bit noob. chisimba is crap. joomla’s good, easi2 insall, easy to use, huge online community prolly the biggest for open source cms - so lotsa help, smart and useful addons, modules etc. duznt look to bad also, drupal looks a bit noob. chisimba is crap.

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]]> By: Steve Mathew http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24561 Steve Mathew Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:57:18 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24561 Funny how when people say Open Source everyone thinks of Linux et al. What about Open Source DotNetNuke? Or even open source .net newcomer Umbraco? Funny how when people say Open Source everyone thinks of Linux et al.

What about Open Source DotNetNuke? Or even open source .net newcomer Umbraco?

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]]> By: Khathutshelo http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24545 Khathutshelo Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:12:57 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24545 I started off with Xoops, then Mambo and finally capped it off with Joomla! I found Joomla quite good, it made me wanna learn PHP and for a while I did hack up my Joomla installations extensively. At the end, I ditched Joomla and found Umbraco. Now Umbraco is quite tight but the lack of documentation is enough to drive one insane. At the moment my team and I are just building our up comming site from the ground up. We decided to build from the ground because of control issues. Had bad experiences with messed up Joomla installations after patch ups SimpleMachines/PHPBB and other addons.. As far as blog systems go, I think WP is ok, I used B-Evolution a whole lot, as well as Subtext and .Net Blogengine. So I think the masses are spoilt for choice. I started off with Xoops, then Mambo and finally capped it off with Joomla! I found Joomla quite good, it made me wanna learn PHP and for a while I did hack up my Joomla installations extensively.

At the end, I ditched Joomla and found Umbraco. Now Umbraco is quite tight but the lack of documentation is enough to drive one insane.

At the moment my team and I are just building our up comming site from the ground up. We decided to build from the ground because of control issues.

Had bad experiences with messed up Joomla installations after patch ups SimpleMachines/PHPBB and other addons..

As far as blog systems go, I think WP is ok, I used B-Evolution a whole lot, as well as Subtext and .Net Blogengine. So I think the masses are spoilt for choice.

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]]> By: Boycott Novell » Links 27/06/2008: Migration Stories (to GNU/Linux); A Look at KDE4’s Folderview http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24530 Boycott Novell » Links 27/06/2008: Migration Stories (to GNU/Linux); A Look at KDE4’s Folderview Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:13:21 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24530 [...] The great open source CMS debate [...] […] The great open source CMS debate […]

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]]> By: Ant http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24527 Ant Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:27:58 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24527 There are a few other dimensions to the OS CMS debate in general, and Drupal in particular: - depth of local skills (see the Shuttleworth interview at searchcio.co.za) - lack of any real quality grading system for add-ons (and attendant poor documentation) - perhaps most troubling, the periodic "version quakes" that appear to have become a persistent pattern Drupal is currently experiencing this last (again) with the 5.7 release being the most widely used, but the latest version (currently 6.2) offering some exciting features. The bulk of add-on themes & modules haven't quite caught up with the newest release, and this means that you have to choose between a stable legacy core, richly extended, but no longer maintained, or a stable but still narrowly used new core which will take some time to become the new standard. This means that there is a built-in evolutionary shakeout (not necessarily a bad thing) since many modules never move ahead to embrace new versions. It also means that deciding on the foundation for projects that need to be done today is not an easy call, especially since many architectural and functional issues were addressed in the move to the new version. Catch-22 drupal style ;) There are a few other dimensions to the OS CMS debate in general, and Drupal in particular:

- depth of local skills (see the Shuttleworth interview at searchcio.co.za)
- lack of any real quality grading system for add-ons (and attendant poor documentation)
- perhaps most troubling, the periodic “version quakes” that appear to have become a persistent pattern

Drupal is currently experiencing this last (again) with the 5.7 release being the most widely used, but the latest version (currently 6.2) offering some exciting features.

The bulk of add-on themes & modules haven’t quite caught up with the newest release, and this means that you have to choose between a stable legacy core, richly extended, but no longer maintained, or a stable but still narrowly used new core which will take some time to become the new standard.

This means that there is a built-in evolutionary shakeout (not necessarily a bad thing) since many modules never move ahead to embrace new versions.

It also means that deciding on the foundation for projects that need to be done today is not an easy call, especially since many architectural and functional issues were addressed in the move to the new version. Catch-22 drupal style ;)

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]]> By: derek http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24520 derek Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:16:47 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24520 Wordpress is a default web site. You can get a brief from a client to have a website with no blog functionality and still take a theme, a few add-ons, get your head around WP templates and presto! IMH-dabbling-O, Drupal has a steeper learning curve and compared to WP is clunky. Joomla creates unnecessary pages (eg: click here to go to a page of links, so that you can leave the site). Makes sense when building a content tree, but not for users. Wordpress is a default web site. You can get a brief from a client to have a website with no blog functionality and still take a theme, a few add-ons, get your head around WP templates and presto!
IMH-dabbling-O, Drupal has a steeper learning curve and compared to WP is clunky. Joomla creates unnecessary pages (eg: click here to go to a page of links, so that you can leave the site). Makes sense when building a content tree, but not for users.

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]]> By: Al http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24502 Al Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:14:01 +0000 http://www.techleader.co.za/nurahmadfurlong/2008/06/25/the-great-open-source-cms-debate/#comment-24502 It goes without saying that the tool depends on the function. That said, I think that Drupal is awesome and can pretty easily be used to meet most functions. It is FAR more versatile than Wordpress - Drupal is a true CMS system. Crucially, because it has such an active user community Drupal is: - Easy to extend (think of a feature and someone has already developed and shared it) - Very well documented When I first installed Drupal I found it pretty intimidating (not as simple as Wordpress), but if you get stuck in it’s actually very easy. If you are interested in CMS – i.e. anything much more than a blog or something will contributing users – then I recommend looking into Drupal. It goes without saying that the tool depends on the function. That said, I think that Drupal is awesome and can pretty easily be used to meet most functions. It is FAR more versatile than Wordpress - Drupal is a true CMS system.

Crucially, because it has such an active user community Drupal is:
- Easy to extend (think of a feature and someone has already developed and shared it)
- Very well documented

When I first installed Drupal I found it pretty intimidating (not as simple as Wordpress), but if you get stuck in it’s actually very easy.

If you are interested in CMS – i.e. anything much more than a blog or something will contributing users – then I recommend looking into Drupal.

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